Chromium

Please note: Safari3.x also behaves like Google Chrome.

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there is one workaround: you can start chrome with --start-maximized switch

Is this still a problem in Chrome 2.0? (released today)

yes sure. it is also the problem on dev branch.

I see it here too. I will take a look.

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This is the desired behavior from whoever wrote the window sizer code. See
http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/browser/window_sizer.h?
annotate=18795 lines 106-109. Pkasting probably know more about the code.

Personally I like the IE/FF behavior. I don't know the story behind why Chrome's
behavior is "standard Windows behavior".

I hope this can be fixed before 3.0.

Yes, this was intentional.  Having a new window be maximized helps some use cases and
hurts others.  I'm not sure what behavior is better.  CCing Ben for comment.

Surely user comment indicates that we want maximized for all new windows if we've
selected maximized before?

How about the fact that every other browser works maximized all the time once you've
set a widow maximized a single time (i.e. closing all windows you still get a
maximized window on opening the browser again, and all new windows from the existing
one open maximized as well) - and people don't complain that they don't like this (or
at least I've not seen such a complaint in my years of using browsers.)

I don't think I've ever seen anyone use non-maximized windows for browsers except in
very rare and special circumstances.  A browser windows is not like other windows and
is used differently.  Unlike (e.g.) an explorer window you want to use all the
available screen space for a browser.

I understand the "standard windows behaviour" comment, but this is a different use of
the word "standard" than how it may be being interpreted here (no offense intended if
I'm totally off base with this.)  It's only standard in the sense of "that's what
other windows tend to do" and not in the sense of "this is how windows *should/must*
behave."  In my opinion the "standard" behaviour is incorrect in this case and should
not be followed just because "everyone else does it." (never mind that everyone else
doesn't do it when it comes to browser windows.)

Could you give some examples of use cases hurt by a maximized browser window?  I am
genuinely interested as I can't think of any.

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Ben: ping. Can you comment on this?

Pplease, fix it up, this behaviour is really annoying. I can't believe that this is
not bug, but feauture.

For other unsatisfied users:

Search for bytes in chrome.dll and replace them
84 C0 75 17 FF 75 18
with
84 C0 00 00 FF 75 18

It just ignore GetLastWindowBounds call at WindowSizer::DetermineWindowBounds method
and use saved window size. I tested it on version 3.0.195.33, but probably it will
works with other versions too, if developers won't change that code.

wow, that's a way to fix things, kudos to cawook :)

if only you could also make a source code patch..

oops... 00 00 in replacement code should be 90 90

so, there is a patch:

--- chrome/browser/window_sizer.cc      (revision 32506)
+++ chrome/browser/window_sizer.cc      (working copy)
@@ -153,13 +153,13 @@
   *bounds = specified_bounds;
   if (bounds->IsEmpty()) {
     // See if there's saved placement information.
-    if (!GetLastWindowBounds(bounds)) {
+//  if (!GetLastWindowBounds(bounds)) {
       if (!GetSavedWindowBounds(bounds, maximized)) {
         // No saved placement, figure out some sensible default size based on
         // the user's screen size.
         GetDefaultWindowBounds(bounds);
       }
-    }
+//  }
   }
 }

This has become very annoying..I use both Incognito (command line switch on a shortcut) and standard modes..and they
don't open fully and I have to resize them every single time I open them. When using one mode, sometimes I have to
resize it..when using both modes, one shortcut opens it fully and the other shortcut does not and I have to be
resizing every time I open chrome because even when I maximize it, the window size is not remembered. I would greatly
appreciate if this was fixed for Mstone-5 at least.

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PING - Please fix this. Name one user that browser without a maximized window, surely
99.999% of times you will browse fully maximized.

Perhaps having an option in the "Under the Hood" tab of the options that allows choosing the desired behaviour would be acceptable. Either way, this bug (feature to some, bug to many) is what is going to push me back to Firefox. I like being able to keep my hands on the keyboard and this particular features is one the of the few that "forces" me to use the mouse. Unfortunately the command line switch gives me a new window that is maximized, but is not centered on the screen (similar to how a new normal window is placed). It means I still have to use the mouse to shift an off-centered maximized window to the middle of the screen.

*grumble*

wlovins: can't you just press alt-space, x in order to maximize the window? That's a standard keyboard shortcut for maximizing. You shouldn't need to use the mouse.

mdm: while what you said is true, it doesn't solve the real problem. Solution is simple, when pressing ctrl+n in a window that's maximized, the new window should be maximized. Why are you pretending there is no problem in usability is beyond me. Nothing in Chromium's user interface is "standard" so using that excuse doesn't help.

I have to absolutely agree with zkam83's comment.

I agree with.. me.. But also the others (zkam83 and bcronje). In Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Opera, I get a maximized window when I use ctrl+n. By default with Safari, I get a vertically maximized window.. it isn't perfect, but still... it is a new window that is usable and the full window is on the screen and at least maximized in a somewhat usable manner. Chrome is the only browser that does not behave the way I would expect it to. I am confused as to the resistance to "conforming" to the standard browser behaviour or at a minimum adding a new command line switch or configurable option on how child windows act? Being different for the sake of being different already annoys me with how Chrome acts when encountering a self-signed ssl key and the response that I must pay money to someone (for an ssl key) for the browser to not complain when I goto my own internal corporate site. While I can understand there is an overall security philosophy that may exist for that specific case (debatable), I don't understand what the design choice is in this case except for the original implementer did it "one way" for new windows where many people expect it to be one "the other way".

Yes, I can shift my hands in a multitude of ways to move windows, maximize them, etc, but "WHY"?

Sorry about the rant, but I'm curious why Chrome is acting differently than everyone else without any clear / obvious reason for doing so. If it is a design choice, can you point me to some documentation that describes this action so that I can better understand why new windows are positioned in this (non-standard for a web browser) manner?

My "fix" I have written about at 22nd November working fine across all version till today. I need to patch any new version of chrome.dll, but it is worth of it.

@cawook - Any idea how to apply your 'fix' in Ubuntu? I have a peculiar problem. The --kiosk mode follows the second window size in Ubuntu LTSP client.

Hi guys,

For those interrested, I found another way to solve the problem (on my system at least, Windows Vista, but probably works for any, as it doesn't seem related to it), that is have the new chrome window opened maximised, with ctrl+n and even with right-clic "open in a new window" function, without having to code anything in shortcuts or else ...

Here's the trick :

When you close your "last" open chrome window, it remembers the position and the status (maximised or not). So close all windows except one, make sur that one is maximised, then close it too ...

Next time you open chrome, the window will be maximised (except if you modified the shortcut to do something else), AND any new window opend even with right-clic on a link and "open in new window" will ALSO be maximised !!

Gee, finally a straightful easy solution ... works on my system anyways.

Cheers,

Fred.

PS : Of course, if one day your new window doesn't open maximised anymore, you probably inadvertenly closed once the last chrome window in a windowed mode, not maximised ... and it remembered it too. Easy to re-fix now.

Fred's steps does NOT work on my system. The way he describes it should be the expected or desired outcome, but it is not.

Sorry to hear it doesn't work for you guys. Works as a charm for me, any kind of new chrome window opened is maximised.

I must admit I also installed a bunch of new extensions, one of which might have changed this behaviour as a side effect (like maybe the "Tabs to the front!" extension, or any other).

I don't want to bother with non-useful for you "partial" solutions, but just in case this is the reason why it nows works for me, here's the complete list of my chrome extensions just installed (I switch from firefox few days ago, and also very quickly got annoyed with the issue discussed here).

       
AdBlock - Version : 2.2.7
AdBlock pour Chrome ! Bloque les publicités sur tout le web. Noté 4,5 sur 5 par nos utilisateurs !
Désactiver - Désinstaller - Options   Autoriser en mode navigation privée
       
Autocomplete = on - Version : 1.0
Changes 'autocomplete=off' to 'autocomplete=on' in web pages, so your passwords will be remembered.
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Better Gmail (Unofficial) - Version : 2.1.53
Options: Removes:ads,chat,invites,footer|Adds:favicon unread #,attachment icons,row highlight,mailto with gmail,muzzle.
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Browser Button for AdBlock - Version : 0.0.12
Adds a button to AdBlock. Requires AdBlock version 2.2 or later.
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Chrome SEO - Version : 0.8
The Google Chrome SEO Extension. All the SEO Stats and Tools you need to make daily SEO easier. The MOST popular Chrome SEO Plugin!
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Chrome TV - Version : 2.0.3
Live TV around the world.
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Do Not Press - Version : 1.0 (désactivée)
Do Not Press the Red Button.
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Downloads - Version : 1
Access the Downloads window directly from the toolbar
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Extension Abonnement RSS (par Google) - Version : 2.1.2
Ajoute un bouton à votre barre d'outils qui vous permet de vous abonner en un seul clic.
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Extension Chrome to Phone de Google - Version : 2.1.2 (désactivée)
L’extension Chrome to Phone par Google permet d’envoyer des liens et d'autres informations depuis le navigateur Chrome vers votre appareil Android.
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Extensions Button - Version : 0.1
Access Chrome's Extensions section from a button in your toolbar
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FastestChrome - Browse Faster - Version : 3.1.2
Save time and enhance your productivity! Get quick definitions, auto-load next pages, search faster, and more.
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Format HD automatique pour vidéos YouTube - Version : 2.2.1.163
Commencer la lecture de toutes les vidéos youtube en HD (si possible) ou sous une autre qualité de votre choix.
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Google Calendar Checker (by Google) - Version : 1.0.3
Quickly see the time until your next meeting. Click the button to open your calendar.
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Google Docs - Version : 1.2
This extensios allows direct access to your google docs with just one click
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Google Mail Checker Plus - Version : 1.2.0.5
Displays the number of unread messages in your Gmail and Google Apps inbox. Preview mail, read, delete, archive and mark as spam!
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Google Reader Notifier (by Google) - Version : 1.2
Displays the number of unread items in your Google Reader account. Clicking can show a preview popup or open your Reader account.
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Google Webspam Report (by Google) - Version : 1.42 (désactivée)
Report spam in search results to Google.
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History Button - Version : 1.0
HistoryButton creates a shortcut to the chrome:history page.
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Lazarus: Form Recovery - Version : 0.2.4.1
Autosaves everything you type into textareas so you can easily recover from form-killing timeouts, crashes and network errors.
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MegaUpload DownloadHelper - Version : 1.2
No More Countdowns - Automatic Downloads.
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PageRank - Version : 1.5
fastest and Very light weight. It shows Google page rank on toolbar. Developer: Hrishikesh Kale(kalehrishi@gmail.com)
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RapidShare DownloadHelper - Version : 1.1.1
No More Countdowns - Automatic Downloads.
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Reader Plus - Version : 3.4.1
Enhance Google Reader by adding missing favicons and a collection of others features
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RoboForm Online - Version : 2.1.9
RoboForm Online Password Manager. Saves, fills in login info for web sites. Logins are stored on RoboForm Online server, encrypted
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SearchPreview for Google - Version : 1.0
Adds preview images (thumbnails) to your Google search results.
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SEO Site Tools - Version : 2.89
On-Page / External metrics, Social Media info, PR / numbering on Yahoo, Bing, Google SERPs.Extends WMT, YSE and GA with metrics
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SeoQuake - Version : 0.9.9
SeoQuake is a SEO extension (toolbar) for Google Chrome, it shows PageRank, Alexa and tons of SEO parameters, also works in SERP
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Tabs to the front! - Version : 0.2.4
Brings newly created tabs to the foreground.
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Torrent Turbo Search - Version : 3.5.2.4
Find every torrent on the planet in 1 second! Results are from The Pirate Bay, Kickasstorrents, Isohunt, Fenopy,...
 and now with additional direct download search engine for sites like rapidshare, hotfile, 4shared, depositfiles,..
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Ultimate Chrome Flag - Version : 0.3.5
This extension displays country or region name, Geo, Google PageRank, Alexa Rank and WOT info for the websites you're visiting.
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Visionneuse Google Documents PDF/PowerPoint (par Google) - Version : 2
Permet de visionner automatiquement des PDF, des présentations PowerPoint et d'autres documents dans la Visionneuse Google Documents.
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Vérificateur de messages Google - Version : 3.1 (désactivée)
Affiche le nombre de messages non lus dans votre boîte de réception Google Mail. Vous avez également la possibilité de cliquer sur ce bouton pour ouvrir cette dernière.
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WOT - Version : 1.0.3 (désactivée)
Web of Trust is a safe browsing tool, which warns you about risky sites that cheat customers, deliver malware or send spam.
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Really hope this helps,

Fred.

PS : I almost wanted to make a video to show you how my "new maximised windows" really works now on my system, which was such a relief, so I understand yours would be too !

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That's exactly the bug, that prevents me from using Chrome in everyday's use. Because it doesn't work correctly since the first versions of Chrome, I don't understand, why this very annoying bug is only priority 3.

I'm also failing to understand why Chrome can't just do this the simple way:

1. Opening a new window with none open, use the same state as the last closed window (max if last was max, not max if last was not max.)
2. When opening a new window from an existing one, use the same size as the existing one.

Since getting multiple and larger monitors, I do sometimes use non-maximized windows.  I opened a new one today from one of these, intending to cascade them, and the new one opened maximized.  Why?  It's counterintuitive.  Just use the state of the most recently open/focused browser window.

Sometimes the maximized state will have been remembered and used for days, then I open a new window from an existing maximized one and it isn't maximized.  This makes no sense.

So, while it mostly works (but only because I mostly want maximized and it is more consistently doing this than it used to,) it's still inconsistent for no apparent reason.

Chrome is still hands down the best browser out there, which just makes silly stuff like this more annoying.  Please fix it to work consistently the way the majority of users are used to and seem to agree on wanting it to work.

Guys, guys, get used to it or use another browser. Developers like to browser behave this weird way, no matter they're people who want to use maximized windows, so discussion is done. They're just stubborn.

@41:
Yes, as long as this bug exists I use another browser for everydays use.

But if this is really no bug, but the developers want it this way, I'm asking me why: If someone prefers to work with small windows on a big screen, the windows open in the size of the existing one (small) or the last closed (small). But many people use Notebooks, Netbooks, or just prefer to work with programs in maximized mode. And for these people it's very annoying and it would be better to open the new window in the size of the existing one (maximized if maximized).

@40:
I totally agree with you! If a new window (with Chrome not open yet) is opened in the size of the last closed and a new window opened from an existing Chrome-window opened in that size, this would please everybody. Those who prefer maximized windows and those who prefer smaller windows.

I know many people who hate this bug.

That's the most frustrating bug in Chrome for me too.

I hope, this will get fixed very soon.

I can't understand, why this bug isn't fixed in all this time! It's so annoying! If somebody prefers to work with smaller windows, he can do and new windows should have this size. But if somebody uses a maximized window, the new one(s) should be maxmized too. Just every new window should have the size of the window from which it is opened (per menu or Ctrl-N.)

It workes correctly in IE, Opera and Firefox. Why can't Chrome behave like this? It prevents many people from switching completely to Chrome. And if other browsers will get better, this can also cause Chrome-users to switch to another browser.

Please fix this very soon!

I've heard, that there is work for an own OS-independent window-manager in Chrome. I strongly hope, that this bug will be fixed then! It's essential for the usability of Chrome.

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It could be so nice and easy, if a new window that is opened from another, has the size of the "source"-window (esp. if maximized). Then everybody automatically would have what he prefers.

It's so bothersome, to always maximize it manually. Because Firefox, IE and Opera do this correct, this is a serious usability-disadvantage of Chrome.

Yes, the shortcut method should work.  But should not be required.

I've said it before: let the behavior be defined by usage, the same way other browsers do - act the same as the last closed window (if none are open) and act the same as the window from which new ones are opened via Ctrl-N.

This would once and for all solve the problem.

If that method was problematic I'm sure everyone using non-Chrome browsers would have complained.  If the Chrome developers have a good reason why this is not possible to implement, or why it will make more people unhappy than it makes happy, please enlighten me and I will consider your reasoning and maybe decide I agree.  As it stands now no one has explained why the common user friendly behavior isn't being considered as the solution.

Anyway, I'm just repeating myself in the hopes that if this bug gets bumped up every now and then (I see my last post was beginning of the year) then someone might take notice and fix the problem.

http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=3586#c1
Safari (checked 5.0.5) fixed this; if the original window is maximized, a new one is too.

http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=3586#c28
This wouldn't be that much of a problem, if alt (release) space x would not completely close Google Chrome (https://crbug.com/chromium/66043). It'd still be stupid of course, but tolerably stupid.

Still not fixed in 11.0.696.71.

The other issue with workarounds like the maximized flag/option are that it makes everything maximized, even when it shouldn't be.

For example, other browsers remember the state of the browser.  If you're maximized, Ctrl-N opened a new maximized window/etc.  But if you click on the "To:" link in a new email in Gmail, a smaller sized window determined by Gmail is opened.

If you use a lame Chrome workaround, all your windows are maximized even when they shouldn't be.

It should be state remember and used unless otherwise specified by a link.  Simple.

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No other browser has this problem and this is marked as Available and Mstone-X. Can anyone work on this please? Mstone-13 or 14 at least? 2008-2011..

I'm trying to switch over go Chrome from FF, and just spent the last 2 hours trying to solve this issue. On Win 7, I have a batch file that automatically opens 4 browser windows and populates them with 2-4 tabs each. The -start-maximized flag does not work, and all but the first window open non-maximized. Also, middle-click on the pinned icon in the Win 7 task bar, which is my habituated method for opening a new browser window, does not open the new window maximized.

I'm not saying this is a deal breaker. But I am saying that this is a big enough issue for me that I just invested 2 hours trying to solve it. It also is the normal behavior for every other browser I've used, so I fully expected that there would be a simple solution I was missing, which is why I spent the time. I certainly did not expect that the developers made this decision intentionally, with no possible way for me to use Chrome in my standard work flow.

The logic seems to be in Browser::NewWindow() and Browser::OpenEmptyWindow().

How do we get the previous window to know it's state, I don't know.

Did this change between 15 and 17? I just upgraded and new windows are maximized now!

I've noticed it too! I hope, this is not only some temporary bug :)

I'm experiencing this in 18.0.1025.168 on Ubuntu Precise, but only under Gnome-Shell, not under Unity. I'm posting this comment, as it appears unrelated to the others, since it only seems to affect one windowing environment

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This issue has been fixed a long time ago

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This issue was migrated from crbug.com/chromium/3586?no_tracker_redirect=1

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